The WILL Podcast
For Women Lawyers Who Want Freedom, Flexibility and Fulfillment
The WILL podcast is for you if you’ve ever wondered:
- What else can I do with my law degree?
- I’m not sure if I want to stay in law, and I’m not sure I can give it up, but I can’t keep going like I have been. It’s not sustainable.
- How can I make a transition without throwing it all away – the money, prestige, and identity?
If you’re frustrated, feel stuck and are wondering “What else could I even do?” or “What’s the matter with me?” you’ve come to the right place. (Spoiler alert: There’s nothing wrong with you.)
On the WILL Podcast you’ll find:
- Inspiring stories of lawyers creating new paths, in law and out.
- Short episodes with practical tips, tools and a way to put ideas into action.
- Real life journeys of WILL Clients and the changes they made and how they did it.
I’m your host, Elena Deutsch, and here to help you find clarity, confidence and connection. I’m NOT a former lawyer (my dad was a lawyer and I saw it take him out). I created WILL – Women Interested in Leaving (small, medium, big, in-house, etc.) Law to help you discover what else you can do, and experience relief, freedom and fulfillment.
I bring my compassion, years of experience in multiple industries and curiosity to every conversation. My intention is you glean a nugget of wisdom (or two) to help you on your way.
To think… “If she can do it, maybe I can do it too.” Where there’s a WILL, there’s a way. Let’s get you on your way in one of these episodes! 👇🏽👇🏾👇🏿
Season 1 Episodes
Ep 1: How Pursuing Comedy Led Pamela T. to Her Ideal Legal Job
In this episode, meet Pamela T, a former big law attorney, who had an epic journey across four countries before landing in Newcastle, England.
Now she pursues her dual passions – fighting the patriarchy and comedy, all while raising her son and enjoying the occasional good cup of coffee after Pilates. You can’t make this up!
Ep 2: Anxiety in Women Lawyers – How it Affects You and What You Can Do
If you’re increasingly concerned about the toll anxiety from work is taking on your physical and mental health, this is for you.
In this episode, Elena shares her understanding of “situational anxiety” and how she sees it impacting women lawyers. She covers:
- What occurs in the body and the effect of living in a frequent state of stress.
- How being self-compassionate can help (and why that’s so hard for women lawyers).
- Three techniques to reduce anxiety and regain calm.
Ep. 3: How Getting Out of $670K of Debt, Led Rho Thomas to Become a Financial Coach
You’ve just had your first child. As the end of your mat leave rapidly approaches, you consider going back to work 50% time for 50% pay. But after looking at your family finances, you see that you and your medical resident spouse are $670K in debt!
Rho not only went back to work full-time, she got to work to reduce their debt, which she more than halved in just a few years.
Ep. 4: Thinking of Starting Your Own Firm? How Two Lawyers Created Theirs (Without Dipping into Savings)
Listen to this special panel discussion with WILL Alumni Destiny Bounds of Bounds Legal, and Wilder Clements of Clements Employment Law.
They share about their journeys from despair to doing work they love… for themselves. This is especially for you if you’re feeling helpless and/or if you’re considering starting your own firm.